Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Farewell (Rihanna song)

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The result was redirect to Talk That Talk/Unapologetic. Black Kite (talk) 12:46, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Farewell (Rihanna song)

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Another case of a series of album tracks that fail WP:NSONGS and WP:GNG. As stated at NSONGS: chart positions and album reviews do not justify notability, and even if third-party coverage exists: Notability aside, a standalone article is appropriate only when there is enough material to warrant a reasonably detailed article. Sources in the listed articles are limited to album reviews and a Popdust article reviewing the album track-by-track, which obviously fail notability. My suggestion is to either redirect or merge these articles into their respective parent album's articles. HĐ (talk) 04:25, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect or merge to Talk That Talk: Farewell (Rihanna song), Drunk on Love (Rihanna song), Roc Me Out, Do Ya Thang (Rihanna song), Fool in Love
Redirect or merge to Unapologetic: Nobody's Business (song), Love Without Tragedy / Mother Mary, No Love Allowed, Half of Me (Rihanna song), Numb (Rihanna song)

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. HĐ (talk) 04:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. HĐ (talk) 04:38, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect or Merge all except "Nobody's Business" and "Half of Me" - the former has some notable for being a collaboration with Chris Brown despite previous controversy, whilst the latter has some notable for appearing in multiple national music charts, and higher than the other songs. Foxnpichu (talk) 18:35, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see that most of the discussions regarding Rihanna/Chris Brown collaborations focused on "Birthday Cake" and "Turn Up the Music" speculations, not "Nobody's Business".. For "Half of Me", while it did chart, I don't think chart positions alone warrant notability in its own right. What matters is third-party coverage regarding the song itself (such as music, lyrics, structure, significance in the album or the artist's career etc.) HĐ (talk) 04:03, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If they all need to get redirected/merged, I'm fine with that too. Foxnpichu (talk) 23:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply, HĐ (talk) 03:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep : Considering they all passed GAN, they all do have extensive info, charting and many have been performed live commentary. — Calvin999 21:22, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Most of them have charted to pointlessly low degrees. Also, most of the "extensive info" is just people talking about the album as a whole. Foxnpichu (talk) 00:18, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Talk That Talk and Unapologetic. These articles, like "Fool in Love" and "Roc Me Out" for instance, rely almost entirely on album reviews, and that goes against WP:NSONG. I understand Foxnpichu's point on "Nobody's Business", but it seems like the Chris Brown coverage is about other things than this song (like the "Birthday Cake" remix). With that said, I think it would have been better to nominate these separately. Aoba47 (talk) 00:20, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Aoba47: I decided to bundle all these songs because these articles are part of a series (or some series) on album tracks that seem to be fashionable within certain Music-related WikiProjects. While I understand the eagerness to write encyclopedic entries about a favourite artist's album, these have certain thematic links (i.e. some articles just copy-and-paste the "Background" section). Hope it makes sense, HĐ (talk) 04:03, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the message. I understand your point. Aoba47 (talk) 04:35, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see your point. Should I change your comment inline with what you said? Foxnpichu (talk) 11:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, HĐ (talk) 03:37, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect all to respective parent albums. It doesn't matter whether they charted or not when there isn't much discussion on any of these tracks outside of album reviews. A brief mention of "Nobody's Business" is insufficient. It's also rather obvious that some of the references pertaining to albums in general were just copied and pasted into some of the pages to fill them out somewhat. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 01:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and redirect all to parent albums, per the above. The information about the songs is best presented in the context of their contributing to the album. BD2412 T 05:49, 27 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.